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Post by Gloops Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:49 pm

Hello everybody,

Some time ago, it worked pretty good with MPC-HC to connect a Bluetooth earphone or disconnect it (I presume it is the same with USB), and after a few seconds MPC-HC sent the sound to the good peripheral.

It is no more the case, I have to restart the software each time –and sometimes even change the output selection in the options. Thankfully it restarts at the good position of the video, at least for some types.

Is it a question of version ? I have got version 1.9.16.63 (52425f077) from compiler MSVC v19.29.30136 on Nov. 4 2021, LAV filters 0.75.1.9, that displays system reference Windows NT 10.0 (build 19043) version 10.0 (64 bit), on Windows 10 21H1 [version 10.0.19043.1348]

By the way ... I had to select a system font of size 22, after that Windows 10 redefines the whole display, and I had to recompile a good number of my applications to adapt to that. The about box of  MPC-HC is displayed very tiny (and it is just an example), I have got to use the Windows lens to adapt to that. And the lens is OK to read, but if I need to put the display besides the browser window, I had to get a screen copy. It is only after that, that I learned there was a button to copy the version information.

All people with a bad view have that problem, after having searched enough to find where to change the system font (notably to be able to read the tooltips, the desktop shortcuts, the menus). If one day you could do something about this (concerning the display of MPC-HC of course), that would be very fine.

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Post by Admin Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:47 pm

First update to latest version of the codec pack.

Then test with different audio renderers:
Options > Playback > Output
Try "Sanear Audio Renderer", "MPC Audio Renderer" and Default DirectSound Device".

Windows Settings has options to scale applications to make them bigger on screen. It also has an option to only scale text size.

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Post by Admin Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:50 pm

Also set your Bluetooth device as default in the Windows Sound settings. Then it should get used automatically when it is active, and it should fallback to your other audio output device when disconnected.
If the sound settings list more audio devices that the two that you use, then disable the ones that you never use. Right-click on them to do that.

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Post by Gloops Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:42 pm

Hello,

I am up-to-date with the most of what you said.

I did not know there was a newer version, OK, I should have controlled that.
Oh, I just discover "AudioAR sound renderer", was it there three weeks ago ?

Of course, when a Bluetooth earphone is connected, it is set to the default sound output of Windows. It works very well for all the other applications –as it did for MPC-HC some time ago.

I tried the "default" output, the default DirectSound device, the default WaveOut device, the MPC audio renderer (I translate from French but there does not seem to be difficulties with that).

So, there are two things I should have tried before posting, sorry, I have to cope with a strange state of health.

And, I did not realize that having too many renderers in the list could be blocking.
For sure there are tracks to follow, thank you. Maybe it was a good idea to ask the question, as I surely should not have thought to this.

About Windows, in Windows XP you had a very fine granularity about the fonts settings, but I am afraid Windows 10 only has three fonts, default, menu, and tooltips, and you cannot modify one without deeply perturbating the rest of the system. My zoom is already at 125%, one day I tried 150%, but then I saw (nearly) nothing any more, as some parts of the system were so much widened that other ones were not visible any more.

It took me time to get the menus, tooltips and desktop shortcuts readable, after trying a lot of combinations. This one was the only one, but ... it drastically reduces the size of the applications windows, and their fonts follow at the same scale.

For my applications, it was not that hard, I increased the fonts sizes on the forms, in fact one application with a personal component took me three hours of further development for this point. In several cases I proposed a dialog box to select the font, which allows to anticipate some further surprises on this domain. When doing so, the possibility must be proposed to modify the size of the window and textboxes, otherwise the text finishes ... outside the window, and of course is not visible.

But for applications downloaded from Internet, of course I just have to juggle with the lens, I often have to open and close it several times in ten seconds, when information has to be read in a part of the screen and transcripted in another..

In one case, I wanted to display the name of a picture displayed, and it took me several days to find how to do. Starting from the displayed window, I had to search for another window hidden at a certain distance on the side, and read the name of that window.

Believe me, I should not have done all that with the Windows XP granularity for the fonts settings.

One thing you have to try to realize, is to use Window 10 with a view acuity of about 4 tenths (rough evaluation) ... Windows XP allowed that relatively easily, Windows 10 not.


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Post by Admin Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:54 pm

In the English Windows 10 you can search for "make text bigger" in the Settings app or Start menu. That might work on your French system as well, otherwise try with translation of those same words.

"Sanear Audio Renderer" was previously called "Internal Audio Render". "MPC Audio Renderer" was added a few months ago.

Is the audio problem solved now?

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Post by Gloops Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:21 pm

Admin wrote:In the English Windows 10 you can search for "make text bigger" in the Settings app or Start menu. That might work on your French system as well, otherwise try with translation of those same words.

I am afraid it is this one :
https://servimg.com/view/20349864/1
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The interface proposes a personalized zoom until 500%, but it is not recommended (and given what I explained, I easily understand why).


"Sanear Audio Renderer" was previously called "Internal Audio Render". "MPC Audio Renderer" was added a few months ago.

Oh, then I remember I tried it. It seems the crucial point is having too many elements in the list, if I understood what you said.



Is the audio problem solved now?

Hum, I was busy ... explaining you the first point Smile


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Post by Gloops Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:54 pm

Well, now, I have got version 1.9.17.24.

I did not see anything disappear from the list when right-clicking on it, but I had emotions as at the following start the Bluetooth devices had disappeared.

I had to delete them in the peripherals manager of Windows, to let install them again.

Then I went to the Windows options, where I discovered that the loudspeaker was selected for MPC-HC. I selected "default" there.

And now, it works quite nice as before : when there is a Bluetooth earphone connected, it receives the sound, when there is none it is the loudspeaker, with a delay of about 10 seconds to commute from one to the other.

Sure, the tradition is to update the software first, especially when arriving a few days after a new version solves the problem.

I am not sure I understood everything that happened during those manipulations, but the end is OK, that was the aim. Thank  you.

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I am going to worsen my story : I do not remember where I am supposed to click to say the thread is solved.

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Post by Admin Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:38 pm

Gloops wrote:
I am afraid it is this one :
https://servimg.com/view/20349864/1
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The option to adjust only text size is located above that option (in Windows 10 21H2).

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Post by Gloops Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:36 am

Above that it its Windows HD Color, and next above, brightness and color.

Oh, you mean I shall get that at the next update ?
OK, I do not wait a lot from that : as I explained you, when enlarging text, I also have to enlarge the window where it is displayed, otherwise it finishes outside the window.
I shall have a look anyway.

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Post by Admin Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:10 pm

In older Windows 10 versions it might be located in the advanced settings.

Yes, increasing text size may look bad in some cases.

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