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Post by vin on Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:11 am

Hi All

I recently formatted my machine. It's on latest windows update at the moment.

But now when using MPC HC my videos stutter when I try to go to fullscreen and switch back to normal. It also stutters when resizing a window.

It's actually my whole system that lags & freezes for like half a second during those events.

I reinstalled & rest all K-lite settings but didn't work.

I was wondering if anyone else has same issues at all? What can i do to fix it please?

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Post by vin on Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:17 am

Hi all

I fixed it miself.  What I did was change the video rendere from MPC HC to Enhanced video renderer.

Options -> Playback -> Output -> Video Renderer.

No more lag or freeze. Hope my solution works for others.

Also came to my attention that MPC HC is not being developed since 2017. Quite a bummer! Time to look for an alternative.

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Post by Admin on Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:07 am

Development of MPC-HC is still very active, and latest version is included with K-Lite.

Which version of Windows do you use and which graphics card do you have?
Codec Tweak Tool > Generate Log

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Post by vin on Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:54 am

Hey Admin

I saw this post so assumed it's not under development anymore.
https://mpc-hc.org/2017/07/16/1.7.13-released-and-farewell/

But good to know K-lite is still developing it. I won't be looking for an alternative anymore then. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy I love MPC-HC too much, can't think of switching to any other.



Here's the info you asked btw:

Windows version - Windows 10 Enterprise latest update
Graphics card - GTX 1060

I switched back to MPCHC video decoder and relaunched the video player and the lag came back. Then I captured the following log:

Log:
Codec Tweak Tool | Log file | Generated at 2020-11-15 12:50:14

##### System Information #####

OS: Windows 10 Enterprise (10.00.19041) (x64)
CPU name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
CPU details: 2592 MHz | 8 core(s) | Family 6 Model 94 Stepping 3
Memory: 16288 MB
Screen size: 1920x1080 (32bits) (60Hz) (114%)
GPU 1: Intel(R) HD Graphics 530
VendorID: 8086, DeviceID: 191b
GPU memory: 1024 MB
GPU driver: igdumdim64.dll (Version 27.20.100.8681) (9-5-2020)
GPU 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
VendorID: 10de, DeviceID: 1c20, SubSys: b7571458
GPU memory: 6144 MB
GPU driver: nvldumdx.dll (Version 27.21.14.5730) (11-6-2020) (NV 457.30)
Audio device: Realtek High Definition Audio
VendorID: 10ec, DeviceID: 0255, SubSys: 1458b757
Audio driver: RTKVHD64.sys (Version 6.0.8978.1) (6-23-2020)

##### K-Lite Codec Pack #####

KLCP version: 15.8.0
KLCP type: mega

Speaker conf: 2.0

MPC renderer: unknown
MPC subs: ISR
MPC audio: Internal Audio Renderer
MPC decoder: h264=DXVA2N hevc=DXVA2N vp9=DXVA2N vc1=0 mpeg2=0

##### Decoder Settings #####

LAV Video:
H264=DXVA2CB HEVC=DXVA2CB VP9=DXVA2CB VC1=0 MPEG2=1 MPEG4=1 WMV3=0

LAV Audio:
MP3=1 AC3=1 DTS=1 DTSHD=1 EAC3=1 TRUEHD=1 AAC=1 Vorbis=1 LPCM=1 WMA=0

##### DirectShow Filters (32-bit) #####

(A total of 82 filters, 0 shown, 82 hidden)

##### DirectShow Filters (64-bit) #####

(A total of 76 filters, 0 shown, 76 hidden)

##### ICM Class Manager (32-bit) #####

(A total of 3 filters, 0 shown, 3 hidden)

##### ICM Class Manager (64-bit) #####

(A total of 3 filters, 0 shown, 3 hidden)

##### Default source filters (32-bit) #####

(A total of 64 default source filters, 0 shown, 64 hidden)

##### Default source filters (64-bit) #####

(A total of 56 default source filters, 0 shown, 56 hidden)

##### ACM and VFW Codecs (32-bit) #####

(A total of 22 codecs, 0 shown, 22 hidden)

##### ACM and VFW Codecs (64-bit) #####

(A total of 19 codecs, 0 shown, 19 hidden)

##### DirectX Media Objects (32-bit) #####

(A total of 14 DMO, 0 shown, 14 hidden)

##### DirectX Media Objects (64-bit) #####

(A total of 14 DMO, 0 shown, 14 hidden)

Hope it helps.

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Post by Admin on Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:16 pm

You also have an Intel GPU, and that one gets used by default by Windows.

You can change the preferred GPU in the Windows Settings, on Display settings page. There you can find ability to specify for individual programs which GPU they should use. Intel = integrated/battery saving, NVIDIA = high performance.

You should try if performance is better when using the NVIDIA GPU.

Does playback go back to normal after the short stutter?

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Post by vin on Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:02 pm

Hi Admin

Yeah the playback is normal after the short stutter.

BTW Thanks for the suggestion. Changing GPU for both 32bit& 64bit MPC-HC players worked out well for the stutter issue.

But do you reckon it will consume more battery when my laptop is not plugged in?

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Post by Admin on Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:53 pm

Yes, it might consume a little more energy.

What you also could try (with Intel as preferred) is the "use Direct3D 11" option in MPC Video Renderer settings. Maybe that will help to eliminate the stutters.

You can of course also just use EVR-CP as video renderer. That was the default one in the past. Benefit of MPC VR is that it should give a little bit better quality.

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Post by vin on Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:25 am

Legend! Ticking the Direct3D option worked out perfectly. Now I can use MPC HC decoder with my intel HD graphics card. Nice one.

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