Subtitles show up half a second too early

Hey there.
I have this problem for some time now.
I have the latest codec pack installed.
Everytime I turn a subtitle on in a movie it shows half a second too fast. I don't have this with the vlc player. there the subtitles are in snyc with the voice. But of course I would like to watch my media with the mpc .
When I go to the subtitle settings I set the delay to 0 but still half a minute delay. I could go + but then the delay is even more extreme. I would like to set the delay to -500 or something but somehow it is not possible.
I would apreciate your help on this

regards

The delay value in the settings is the amount of delay that is added/subtracted each time you press F1 or F2.

Can you copy the filter list here? Maybe I see something unusual.
Menu > Play > Filters

thanks for the reply
F1 and F2 somwhow doesn't work somwhow
sure here is the filter list

Filters currently loaded:
- Default DirectSound Device
- Video Mixing Renderer 9 (renderless)
- Audio Switcher
- LAV Video Decoder (internal)
- LAV Audio Decoder
- LAV Splitter Source (internal)


Also the graphics is a an ATI 6450 Card if that helps

MPC options > Playback > Output > Subtitle renderer > select "Internet Subtitle Renderer" (probably already selected)
MPC options > Internal Filters > Video Decoder > disable hardware acceleration

Are you using Windows XP? If not, change the video renderer to "Enhanced Video Renderer (custom presenter)".

thank you very much
DXVA2 copy back from the hardware acceleration was the problem. Any other option in this select box will fix it.
That delay sneaked in about a half a year to a year ago. Always had the same issue with ati cards.
No I am using Windows 7 64bit
I cannot set the option though "custom presenter" because the mpc is telling me it is not installed

thanks again

If EVR is unavailable it means you have a special version of Windows that doesn't include some multimedia functionality. You can get it by installing this:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=16546

Good to hear the problem is solved.

yes I have the N version of windows installed. Could be that the subtitle thing started when I switched using the N version.

thanks again

I have confirmed that it occurs only for the combination of VMR-9 as renderer and DXVA2 copy back. I am not sure why yet. Also happens with Nvidia system.

So solution is to either install EVR, or disable hardware acceleration.