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Post by patsoumas1995 Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:32 pm

So, I'm using the latest Mega version (in Windows XP), and I never had a problem... until I installed BSPlayer. When I installed it, it affected the MPC for some reason... the subtitles' resolution changed to 800x600 (I fixed that one), and there are lines skipped in the subtitles (they are not always skipped, but something always gets skipped). And the last one is my problem, I've uninstalled both K-Lite & BSPlayer, re-installed K-Lite, and I still have the same issue! How can I fix it?

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Post by Admin Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:09 am

My guess is that BSPlayer installed some old version of VSFilter. The codec pack won´t replace that if it is already installed.

Codec Tweak Tool > Generate Log
That should show where it is installed. If not, try searching for vsfilter.dll

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Post by patsoumas1995 Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:49 pm

I searched for vsfilter, deleted it (it was in a DirectVobSub folder), and re-installed K-Lite, but still the same.

Other than the K-Lite Codec Pack in the Program Files, what else is related to it? Perhaps if I could delete everything related to it, and re-install it again, I could solve my problem. Or, if there is anything else to install on top of it to fix it.

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Post by Admin Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:16 am

MPC-HC options > Playback > Output > select either VMR-7 or VMR-9 (renderless)
MPC-HC options > Playback > enable "Use the build-in subtitle renderer"

If that should gives the problem, then could you upload a subtitle file for me that has the problem? Then I can test it on my computer. Maybe there is a bug in MPC-HC.

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Post by patsoumas1995 Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:37 pm

I'm using Haali, the VMR-7/9 don't play well for me.
"Use the build-in subtitle render" is already enabled.

Here is a subtitle file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/incm2xg716rtmom/Spider-Man%203.srt?dl=0

It's not the only one, and it doesn't do it with Greek only. The same happens with English subs.

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Post by Admin Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:25 pm

The internal subtitle renderer is not compatible with Haali renderer. So it won't be used even if its option is enabled. The texture resolution option in MPC-HC that you mentioned previously also only applies to the internal renderer. In your case it will use DirectVobSub (=VSFilter) for the subtitles. You should see that in the MPC-HC filter list during playback. Menu > Play > Filters.

Open the Registry Editor (regedit.exe) and delete the following keys if they exist:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\vsfilter_is1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\xy-VSFilter_is1

After that do a fresh install of the codec pack. Then it will install a proper version of DirectVobSub that should correctly handle your subtitles.


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Post by patsoumas1995 Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:27 pm

Admin wrote:The internal subtitle renderer is not compatible with Haali renderer. So it won't be used even if its option is enabled.
That's strange, because if I disable it, the subs are not displayed...

Admin wrote:The texture resolution option in MPC-HC that you mentioned previously also only applies to the internal renderer. In your case it will use DirectVobSub (=VSFilter) for the subtitles. You should see that in the MPC-HC filter list during playback. Menu > Play > Filters.
That's what I get:

Filters currently loaded:
 - Default DirectSound Device
 - Απόδοση βίντεο Haali
 - Audio Switcher
 - LAV Video Decoder
 - ffdshow Audio Decoder
 - LAV Splitter Source


Admin wrote:Open the Registry Editor (regedit.exe) and delete the following keys if they exist:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\vsfilter_is1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\xy-VSFilter_is1

After that do a fresh install of the codec pack. Then it will install a proper version of DirectVobSub that should correctly handle your subtitles.
I found the first one (and deleted it), but the second one wasn't there. I re-installed it, but the issue remains...

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Post by ocyl Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:50 pm

Try the following steps:

  1. Uninstall K-Lite Codec Pack.
  2. Download the latest stable build of MPC-HC from http://mpc-hc.org/downloads/.  Choose to "Reset settings" during installation.
  3. Uninstall MPC-HC and choose to delete MPC-HC settings.
  4. Download K-Lite Codec Pack v10.9.0.  During installation, choose to "Reset all settings to their defaults" in the "Additional Tasks and Options" window, and select "Video Mixing Renderer 9 (renderless)" and "Store settings in INI file instead of the Registry" options in the "MPC-HC Configuration" window.

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Post by Admin Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:59 pm

Installing another MPC-HC is pointless. The codec pack is able to completely reset its settings.


MPC-HC options > Subtitles > uncheck "Allow dropping some subpictures if the queue is running late"

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Post by patsoumas1995 Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:20 am

Tried both suggestions, still same problem... :/

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Post by Admin Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:21 pm

How high is the CPU usage during playback?

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Post by patsoumas1995 Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:06 pm

How can I see that? Razz

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Post by Admin Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:28 pm

Press Ctrl+Shift+Esc to open the Windows Task manager. That shows CPU usage.

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Post by patsoumas1995 Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:53 pm

It goes around 30-40% during playback.

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Post by Admin Wed Dec 31, 2014 3:23 pm

Then it is not performance related.

I have no idea what is causing your problem. There have not been any other reports of MPC-HC skipping subtitles for a simple SRT file as far as I know. Neither here or on the MPC-HC bug tracker.

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Post by patsoumas1995 Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:31 pm

I see... Well, thanks for trying to help! I was planning to format my PC in the near future, so maybe that will solve my problem.

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