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Post by christantoan Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:48 pm

I see that you're no longer include xy-VSFilter in the pack. Any reason why?
Just curious that's all Smile

BTW, are you planning to add xy-SubFilter in the future?

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Post by Admin Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:15 am

Development of xy-VSFilter and xySubFilter has pretty much stopped as its main developer has disappeared. Regular VSFilter has less bugs and its performance has been improved a lot, so right now it is the best choice in my opinion. When using MPC-HC the internal subtitle renderer is used of course.

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Post by christantoan Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:19 am

I see.
Thanks for the explanation

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Post by RazzMaTazz007 Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:23 pm

Admin wrote:Development of xy-VSFilter and xySubFilter has pretty much stopped as its main developer has disappeared. Regular VSFilter has less bugs and its performance has been improved a lot, so right now it is the best choice in my opinion. When using MPC-HC the internal subtitle renderer is used of course.

Really?

so this isn't official? xy-VSFilter Project (High Performance VSFilter Compatible Subtitle Filters)

xy-VSFilter 3.0.0.306 Stable = Released: 2014-12-06

XySubFilter 3.1.0.705 Beta2 = Released: 2014-12-07

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Post by Admin Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:23 pm

Yes, I am sure. Those recent changes are just minor and were made by the project admin (cyberbeing). The main developer has been inactive for 10 months now and the project admin has been unable to contact him.

I closely follow developments of all the codecs and tools from the pack, so trust me that I know what is going on.

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Post by christantoan Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:05 am

After several days I noticed that some of subtitles effects are lagging when using Regular VSFilter.
It's playing normally when using xy-VSFilter.
Here's the subtitle file:
http://mir.cr/02QBBEPQ

It happens at 00:03:17

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Post by RazzMaTazz007 Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:44 am

christantoan wrote:After several days I noticed that some of subtitles effects are lagging when using Regular VSFilter.
It's playing normally when using xy-VSFilter.
Here's the subtitle file:
http://mir.cr/02QBBEPQ

It happens at 00:03:17

Tested it out... and yeah it lags even on the 720p version when using the built-in subtitle renderer but doesn't lag when using xy-VSFilter or XySubFilter.

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Post by Admin Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:47 pm

I will send the sample to the developers. Maybe they can improve performance.

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Post by christantoan Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:04 pm

Okay. Thanks

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Post by ocyl Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:05 am

RazzMaTazz007 wrote:
christantoan wrote:After several days I noticed that some of subtitles effects are lagging when using Regular VSFilter.
It's playing normally when using xy-VSFilter.
Here's the subtitle file:
http://mir.cr/02QBBEPQ

It happens at 00:03:17

Tested it out... and yeah it lags even on the 720p version when using the built-in subtitle renderer but doesn't lag when using xy-VSFilter or XySubFilter.
Try increasing sub pictures to buffer in MPC-HC Options -> Subtitles.  I have the 720p version and 00:03:17 does not lag for me.

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Post by RazzMaTazz007 Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:26 am

ocyl wrote:
RazzMaTazz007 wrote:
christantoan wrote:After several days I noticed that some of subtitles effects are lagging when using Regular VSFilter.
It's playing normally when using .
Here's the subtitle file:
http://mir.cr/02QBBEPQ

It happens at 00:03:17

Tested it out... and yeah it lags even on the 720p version when using the built-in subtitle renderer but doesn't lag when using xy-VSFilter or XySubFilter.
Try increasing sub pictures to buffer in MPC-HC Options -> Subtitles.  I have the 720p version and 00:03:17 does not lag for me.

I don't use the built-in subtitle renderer i only tested it out so meh.

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Post by Admin Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:11 pm

Buffering is not very efficient in case of animated subtitles. So a buffer size of 0 might actually give lower peaks.

Lagging is only an issue on slower computers. On my computer the CPU usage is less than 20% with this subtitle.

In the future, the pack might offer a choice between VSFilter and xy-VSFilter.

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Post by ocyl Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:18 pm

Admin wrote:Buffering is not very efficient in case of animated subtitles. So a buffer size of 0 might actually give lower peaks.

Lagging is only an issue on slower computers. On my computer the CPU usage is less than 20% with this subtitle.
When buffer size is set to 0, frames that are not rendered in time are dropped altogether, so there is a trade-off between seeing some scenes at a slower rate versus not seeing them at all.  On slower computers where increasing buffer size doesn't help, choosing the option to "Never animate the subtitles" may be a better solution.

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