Some wav files will not play (in some applications) after installing latest codec pack

Might be that I messed up some settings so I tried resetting and clean installing a couple of times. One thing I do notice is that the wav files that DO play have a higher bit rate.

E.g. 705kbps plays but 112kbps doesn't.

What I also found out is that Audacity does play these files but mpc-hc and Fruity Loops (where the sound effects are from) do not.

What I also just found out is that if I save the wav file from audacity both mpc and Fruity Loops can handle it again. Audacity encodes it with vorbis and saves it in a higher bit rate. It would however be very impractical if I had to open and re-save my entire effects library with audacity .

Any advice would be appreciated.

The difference between those files is probably not just the bitrate, but also the audio format. The WAV container supports a large number of audio formats.

Can you post MediaInfo logs for files that do not play?

Are you sure that those same files played before installing the codec pack? Because the pack doesn't install a splitter for WAV. So splitting is still done by standard filters from Windows. Only audio decoding itself is handled by the pack (for some formats).

Aaah I see that all files that do not play in MPC-HC use 0x674f (Ogg Vorbis 1) which is listed as "not installed". I bet that is the info you would need the MediaInfo logs for? Now I just need to find that codec I guess... I tried installing the latest direct show filters from http://xiph.org/dshow/ but that did not prove to be effective :/

It may well be that this issue was not caused as a direct result of me installing the latest K-lite pack but it was the last change I could think of that I made to my system.

I just found my solution on a Fruity Loops forum if anyone else even needs the solution. Apparently I had to install the codec from somewhere within the Fruity Loops install directory.


To help anyone who has the same issue I'll quote the post:
" Sometimes Windows can disable .ogg vorbis codec which is necessary to play FLS samples. The Vorbis codec decompresses the samples.

1. go to the folder System\Installers\VorbisACM under the FL Studio folder
2. right-click on the file called "vorbisacm.inf"
3. choose the option "Install" in the menu that appears.

If the Ogg Vorbis codec IS installed, follow these steps to turn it on again:

1. Go to Start -> Settings -> Control Panel. Then select "Sounds and Audio Devices".
2. In the window that opens, go to the Hardware tab and select the entry "Audio codecs". Then click on the button labeled "Properties".
3. A new window opens. Go to the "Properties" tab and select "Ogg Vorbis Audio CODEC". Then click on the button labeled "Properties".
4. In the window that opens, make sure that "Use this audio codec" is selected. Then press OK and close the other two windows as well. "

(The first part worked for me and also lets me play them in MPC-HC again)

The codec pack only supports "normal" Vorbis audio. Same for Xiph codec and players like VLC.

Your files are a bit special and were created by that same VORBIS.ACM codec. It basically uses a hack to fit Vorbis inside the WAV container. WAV does not support variable frame size, which Vorbis uses, so the codec stores the Vorbis into an Ogg container and then puts that in the WAV. Real messy. That's the reason why it can only be decoded by the same ACM codec. Same applies for Vorbis audio stored in AVI container.

Wow cool insight, that does sound messy indeed. Thanks again for all the info!

Arcone wrote:Aaah I see that all files that do not play in MPC-HC use 0x674f (Ogg Vorbis 1) which is listed as "not installed". I bet that is the info you would need the MediaInfo logs for? Now I just need to find that codec I guess... I tried installing the latest direct show filters from http://xiph.org/dshow/ but that did not prove to be effective :/

It may well be that this issue was not caused as a direct result of me installing the latest K-lite pack but it was the last change I could think of that I made to my system.

I just found my solution on a Fruity Loops forum if anyone else even needs the solution. Apparently I had to install the codec from somewhere within the Fruity Loops install directory.


To help anyone who has the same issue I'll quote the post:
"  Sometimes Windows can disable .ogg vorbis codec which is necessary to play FLS samples. The Vorbis codec decompresses the samples.

1. go to the folder System\Installers\VorbisACM under the FL Studio folder
2. right-click on the file called "vorbisacm.inf"
3. choose the option "Install" in the menu that appears.

If the Ogg Vorbis codec IS installed, follow these steps to turn it on again:

1. Go to Start -> Settings -> Control Panel. Then select "Sounds and Audio Devices".
2. In the window that opens, go to the Hardware tab and select the entry "Audio codecs". Then click on the button labeled "Properties".
3. A new window opens. Go to the "Properties" tab and select "Ogg Vorbis Audio CODEC". Then click on the button labeled "Properties".
4. In the window that opens, make sure that "Use this audio codec" is selected. Then press OK and close the other two windows as well.  "

(The first part worked for me and also lets me play them in MPC-HC again)

I tried this, but I don't think it's right on my Win 7 PC. I've had the exact same issue since I had to change out my HardDrive on my PC.
I did a fresh install of Win 7 Ultimate, installed FL Studio, and tried to listen to a Pack sample... Neither Video player would play the file. Audacity would play it (Exactly what you stated in the original post).
I installed K-lite codecs, but nothing worked.

I then attempted to do above, but my audio card (Realtek Audio) doesn't have a similar setting. Nothing that shows Audio Codecs.

Can someone help me please

P.S. Can you post the link to the FL forum. Thanks

Instructions here:
https://support.image-line.com/knowledgebase/base.php?ans=23

Right-click on install.bat and choose "Run as administrator". Do this even if you are already logged in as admin, because applications run with limited right by default.