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Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by MuDuDu on Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:30 am

I'm basic user with k-lite and WMP-HC. Using latest k-lite codec pack and latest Nvidia drivers. After upgrading from windows 7 to windows 10 I have video lag after around each 1-2 minutes. The video just stops for few seconds, audio continues smoothly. Usually playing mkv, avi, wmv files. Didn't have any problems before with windows XP and windows 7. Disabling/enabling hardware acceleration doesn't help.

Generated list shows 2GB of RAM, but actually there is 4GB.


Codec Tweak Tool | Log file | Generated at 2015-09-26 21:23:28

#####  System Information  #####

OS:           Windows 10 Home  (10.00.10240) (x64)
DirectX:      9.0c + 10 + 10.1 + 11 + 12
CPU name:     Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 460 @ 2.53GHz
CPU speed:    2527 MHz
Memory:       2048 MB
Screen size:  1366x768 (32bits) (60Hz), 1097x617 (32bits) (60Hz)
Video card:   NVIDIA GeForce GT 420M              
             VendorID: 10de, DeviceID: 0df1, SubSys: 04871025
Video mem:    1024 MB
Video driver: nvd3dumx.dll (Version 355.82)
Audio device: NVIDIA High Definition Audio
             VendorID: 10de, DeviceID: 0014, SubSys: 10de0101
Audio driver: nvhda64v.sys (Version 1.3.34.3) (4-16-2015)

#####  K-Lite Codec Pack  #####

KLCP version: 11.4.4 (base 11.4.0)
KLCP type:    standard

Speaker conf: 2.0

MPC renderer: EVR CP
MPC ISR:      1
MPC int dec:  h264=0|0 vc1=0|0 mpeg2=0|0

#####  Decoder Settings #####

LAV Video (x86):
H264=1|0 VC1=1|0 MPEG2=1|0 MPEG4=1|0 FLV1=1 WMV3=0

LAV Video (x64):
H264=1|0 VC1=1|0 MPEG2=1|0 MPEG4=1|0 FLV1=1 WMV3=0

LAV Audio (x86):
MP3=1 AAC=1 Vorbis=1 AC3=1 DTS=1 LPCM=1 WMA=0

LAV Audio (x64):
MP3=1 AAC=1 Vorbis=1 AC3=1 DTS=1 LPCM=1 WMA=0


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#####  DirectShow Filters (64-bit)  #####

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#####  ICM Class Manager (32-bit)  #####

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#####  ICM Class Manager (64-bit)  #####

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#####  ACM and VFW Codecs (64-bit)  #####

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by Admin on Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:06 am

Press Ctrl+Shift+Esc to open the Windows Task Manager. Use it to monitor the CPU usage during playback. Does it show a spike when the lag occurs?

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by MuDuDu on Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:42 am

CPU utilisation during the video ~17%. Sometimes there is +-3% jumps, but it occurs randomly. There is no connection with video lag.

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by Admin on Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:53 am

Test if it also happens when using a different video renderer.
MPC-HC Options > Playback > Output > select "Enhanced Video Renderer"

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by Admin on Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:57 am

Screen size: 1366x768 (32bits) (60Hz), 1097x617 (32bits) (60Hz)
Is it correct that you have two screens? The second detected one has a very unusual resolution.

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by MuDuDu on Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:11 am

Admin wrote:Test if it also happens when using a different video renderer.
MPC-HC Options > Playback > Output > select "Enhanced Video Renderer"

No impact. Still lagging.

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by MuDuDu on Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:17 am

Admin wrote:
Screen size:  1366x768 (32bits) (60Hz), 1097x617 (32bits) (60Hz)
Is it correct that you have two screens? The second detected one has a very unusual resolution.

Yes, forgot to mention, Tv was connected through hdmi like extended display. But it doesn't change anything. I disconnect it now. All tests was also done on primary PC display. Strange resolution in generated list was because I changed size of text on secondary display to 175%. Normally its like this:

Codec Tweak Tool | Log file | Generated at 2015-09-28 22:04:59

#####  System Information  #####

OS:           Windows 10 Home  (10.00.10240) (x64)
DirectX:      9.0c + 10 + 10.1 + 11 + 12
CPU name:     Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 460 @ 2.53GHz
CPU speed:    2527 MHz
Memory:       2048 MB
Screen size:  1366x768 (32bits) (60Hz), 1920x1080 (32bits) (60Hz)
Video card:   NVIDIA GeForce GT 420M              
             VendorID: 10de, DeviceID: 0df1, SubSys: 04871025
Video mem:    1024 MB
Video driver: nvd3dumx.dll (Version 355.82)
Audio device: NVIDIA High Definition Audio
             VendorID: 10de, DeviceID: 0014, SubSys: 10de0101
Audio driver: nvhda64v.sys (Version 1.3.34.3) (4-16-2015)

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by Admin on Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:09 am

If it also happens with the standard EVR renderer, then I am afraid it might be a driver problem. Also try "Video Mixing Renderer 7 (windowed)' to be sure.

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by MuDuDu on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:31 am

Unfortunately nothing is changing. With different renders, hardware acceleration or without, poor quality video is still lagging. Does't look like it is because of lack of performance. Probably like you said it's drivers bug. What options do I have to solve this problem?

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by Admin on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:10 am

It only happens with low quality videos?

Did you disable the integrated GPU of your Intel processor?

Found some people with similar problems:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3fbycp/problems_with_my_nvidia_geforce_gt_420m/

Here is 355.98 driver:
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/91814/en-us

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by MuDuDu on Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:58 am

Admin wrote:It only happens with low quality videos?

Did you disable the integrated GPU of your Intel processor?

Found some people with similar problems:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3fbycp/problems_with_my_nvidia_geforce_gt_420m/

Here is 355.98 driver:
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/91814/en-us

I mean changing renders I see big drop in quality, and is still lagging.

Can't disable integrated GPU, bios doesn't give this option, device manager shows just Nvidia GPU.

Uninstalled k-lite, installed newest Nvidia drivers (355.98-notebook-win10-64bit-international-whql), played the movie through standard WMP - same problem.

Wait until Nvidia will fix it? Any ideas?

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by Admin on Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:27 pm

The other renderers should, under normal circumstances, give similar quality. Is the quality also lower when viewing at 100% size? Or only when the video is resized (like in fullscreen playback)? One explanation would be that a low quality resizing algorithm is used for some reason. Maybe because the 420M is a relatively weak GPU.

Did the Intel GPU show up in the device manager when you were using Windows 7? If we can get it activated, then the Intel GPU could be used for video playback.

Some things you can do:
- Check if there is a newer chipset driver for your motherboard.
- Complete remove the current graphics drivers with Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU). This allows Windows to do a re-detect of the hardware and do clean and fresh install of the drivers.

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by MuDuDu on Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:51 am

You are right, poor quality is when I make it fullscreen with (Video Mixing Renderer 7 (windowed)), otherwise can't see a difference. I don't remember was intel GPU on the list in windows 7. Maybe my laptop PC (Acer Aspire 5742G) even doesn't have intel integrated GPU. After uninstalling Nvidia drivers with DDU the only display adapter was "Microsoft basic display adapter".

-Newest drivers for intel chipset is for windows 7.
-After DDU and fresh graphic driver install nothing got better.
-To my surprise, no video lag without Nvidia drivers, just with basic Microdsoft display adapter.

Here is a new log:

Codec Tweak Tool | Log file | Generated at 2015-10-01 23:02:55


#####  System Information  #####

OS:           Windows 10 Home  (10.00.10240) (x64)
DirectX:      9.0c + 10 + 10.1 + 11 + 12
CPU name:     Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 460 @ 2.53GHz
CPU speed:    2527 MHz
Memory:       2048 MB
Screen size:  1024x768 (32bits) (64Hz)
Video card:   Microsoft Basic Display Adapter
Video driver: MSBDA (Version 10.0.10240.16384) (6-21-2006)
Audio device: High Definition Audio Device
Audio driver: HdAudio.sys (Version 10.0.10240.16384) (7-9-2015)

#####  K-Lite Codec Pack  #####

KLCP version: 11.4.0
KLCP type:    standard

Speaker conf: 2.0

MPC renderer: EVR CP
MPC ISR:      1
MPC int dec:  h264=0|0 vc1=0|0 mpeg2=0|0

#####  Decoder Settings #####

LAV Video (x86):
H264=1|0 VC1=1|0 MPEG2=1|0 MPEG4=1|0 FLV1=1 WMV3=0

LAV Video (x64):
H264=1|0 VC1=1|0 MPEG2=1|0 MPEG4=1|0 FLV1=1 WMV3=0

LAV Audio (x86):
MP3=1 AAC=1 Vorbis=1 AC3=1 DTS=1 LPCM=1 WMA=0

LAV Audio (x64):
MP3=1 AAC=1 Vorbis=1 AC3=1 DTS=1 LPCM=1 WMA=0


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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by Admin on Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:16 am

One option would be to continue to use the Microsoft driver until NVIDIA fixes their driver.
Another option would be to do a clean install of Windows 10. Some people have had success fixing problems that way.

Here is a link to the NVIDIA support forum:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/35/geforce-500-400-series/

You could try the old 347.25 driver (install using win 8.1 compatibility mode). Use ShutUp10 tool to disable the automatic driver updates of Win10.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/860754/-resolved-problem-nvidia-panel-windows-10-amp-gt540m/

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by MuDuDu on Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:50 am

Admin wrote:One option would be to continue to use the Microsoft driver until NVIDIA fixes their driver.
Another option would be to do a clean install of Windows 10. Some people have had success fixing problems that way.

Here is a link to the NVIDIA support forum:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/35/geforce-500-400-series/

You could try the old 347.25 driver (install using win 8.1 compatibility mode). Use ShutUp10 tool to disable the automatic driver updates of Win10.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/860754/-resolved-problem-nvidia-panel-windows-10-amp-gt540m/

-Without nvidia drivers resolution is just 1024:768, everything is a little blurry, can not use this.
-Fresh copy of windows was done straight away after upgrading to Windows 10, didn't help.
-347.25 drivers with windows 8 compatibility didn't help, still the same.

Thank you for your help. Problem delivered to NVIDIA Display Driver Feedback for Windows 10. Hope they will fix it, someday...

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Re: Video lag after upgrading to windows 10

Post by Admin on Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:52 am

You should be able to adjust the resolution when using the MS driver. I have used it with 1920x1200 myself a few times.

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