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No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by christantoan on Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:48 am

I see that you're no longer include xy-VSFilter in the pack. Any reason why?
Just curious that's all Smile

BTW, are you planning to add xy-SubFilter in the future?

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by Admin on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:15 pm

Development of xy-VSFilter and xySubFilter has pretty much stopped as its main developer has disappeared. Regular VSFilter has less bugs and its performance has been improved a lot, so right now it is the best choice in my opinion. When using MPC-HC the internal subtitle renderer is used of course.

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by christantoan on Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:19 pm

I see.
Thanks for the explanation

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by RazzMaTazz007 on Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:23 pm

Admin wrote:Development of xy-VSFilter and xySubFilter has pretty much stopped as its main developer has disappeared. Regular VSFilter has less bugs and its performance has been improved a lot, so right now it is the best choice in my opinion. When using MPC-HC the internal subtitle renderer is used of course.

Really?

so this isn't official? xy-VSFilter Project (High Performance VSFilter Compatible Subtitle Filters)

xy-VSFilter 3.0.0.306 Stable = Released: 2014-12-06

XySubFilter 3.1.0.705 Beta2 = Released: 2014-12-07

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by Admin on Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:23 am

Yes, I am sure. Those recent changes are just minor and were made by the project admin (cyberbeing). The main developer has been inactive for 10 months now and the project admin has been unable to contact him.

I closely follow developments of all the codecs and tools from the pack, so trust me that I know what is going on.

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by christantoan on Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:05 pm

After several days I noticed that some of subtitles effects are lagging when using Regular VSFilter.
It's playing normally when using xy-VSFilter.
Here's the subtitle file:
http://mir.cr/02QBBEPQ

It happens at 00:03:17

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by RazzMaTazz007 on Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:44 pm

christantoan wrote:After several days I noticed that some of subtitles effects are lagging when using Regular VSFilter.
It's playing normally when using xy-VSFilter.
Here's the subtitle file:
http://mir.cr/02QBBEPQ

It happens at 00:03:17

Tested it out... and yeah it lags even on the 720p version when using the built-in subtitle renderer but doesn't lag when using xy-VSFilter or XySubFilter.

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by Admin on Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:47 am

I will send the sample to the developers. Maybe they can improve performance.

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by christantoan on Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:04 am

Okay. Thanks

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by ocyl on Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:05 pm

RazzMaTazz007 wrote:
christantoan wrote:After several days I noticed that some of subtitles effects are lagging when using Regular VSFilter.
It's playing normally when using xy-VSFilter.
Here's the subtitle file:
http://mir.cr/02QBBEPQ

It happens at 00:03:17

Tested it out... and yeah it lags even on the 720p version when using the built-in subtitle renderer but doesn't lag when using xy-VSFilter or XySubFilter.
Try increasing sub pictures to buffer in MPC-HC Options -> Subtitles.  I have the 720p version and 00:03:17 does not lag for me.

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by RazzMaTazz007 on Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:26 pm

ocyl wrote:
RazzMaTazz007 wrote:
christantoan wrote:After several days I noticed that some of subtitles effects are lagging when using Regular VSFilter.
It's playing normally when using .
Here's the subtitle file:
http://mir.cr/02QBBEPQ

It happens at 00:03:17

Tested it out... and yeah it lags even on the 720p version when using the built-in subtitle renderer but doesn't lag when using xy-VSFilter or XySubFilter.
Try increasing sub pictures to buffer in MPC-HC Options -> Subtitles.  I have the 720p version and 00:03:17 does not lag for me.

I don't use the built-in subtitle renderer i only tested it out so meh.

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by Admin on Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:11 am

Buffering is not very efficient in case of animated subtitles. So a buffer size of 0 might actually give lower peaks.

Lagging is only an issue on slower computers. On my computer the CPU usage is less than 20% with this subtitle.

In the future, the pack might offer a choice between VSFilter and xy-VSFilter.

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Re: No more xy-VSFilter?

Post by ocyl on Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:18 am

Admin wrote:Buffering is not very efficient in case of animated subtitles. So a buffer size of 0 might actually give lower peaks.

Lagging is only an issue on slower computers. On my computer the CPU usage is less than 20% with this subtitle.
When buffer size is set to 0, frames that are not rendered in time are dropped altogether, so there is a trade-off between seeing some scenes at a slower rate versus not seeing them at all.  On slower computers where increasing buffer size doesn't help, choosing the option to "Never animate the subtitles" may be a better solution.

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